2006년 7월 8일 | 밑에 신청하는 안전

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상기의 심상은 나가 전에 2 년 만나는 동일한 ATM 과실을 저를, 유일한 다름이다 IBM의 구식 O/S2인 것을 일어나는 운영 체계 생각나게 한다. 나는 안전 목적, 은행을 위해 좋아한다 유닉스 또는 Linux 시스템을 생각했다.

은행이, ATMs, 마이크로소프트에서 Windows에 의해 기계, 차, 전화 주로 강화되는 경우에, 마이크로소프트 에의한 운영 체계의 전매권을 끊는 것은 거의 불가능하다.

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Bridget Linhart
2006년7월 9일 에

소프트웨어는 높은 안전 방호벽과 더불어 전용 네트워크에, 달린다. 그것은 그들이 인터넷에 달렸는 처럼 이지 않는다.
Nachoes
2006년7월 9일 에

진짜로 중요하지 않다: 주말 내내 그와 가진 그의 휴대용 퍼스널 컴퓨터를 가지고 가는 어떤 어리석은 Exec는 바이러스에 의해, 휴대용 퍼스널 컴퓨터 감염되고 그는 월요일에 법인 근거리 통신망으로 폐쇄한다…
(그렇습니다, 이것은 일어나고)
trogdor
2006년7월 9일 에

칩에 적합하 할 수 있다 때문에 ATM UI는 이렇게 간단해야 한다. 나가 있던 십년간에를 위한 동일한 UI가 사용한 ATMs. 우리는 진짜로 색깔 스크린을 우리의 균형을 전망하거나 $20를 철회하는 필요로 하는가?
Andreas Roedl
2006년7월 9일 에

저것은 무섭다!

당신은 진짜로 Windows XP 같이 운영 체계를 ATM를 실행하는 필요로 하는가? 나는 이렇게 생각하지 않는다.
곧
2006년7월 9일 에

FYI,

The latest Internet worm struck Washington state’s leading businesses, disrupting thousands of Washington Mutual Inc. automated teller machines, infecting The Boeing Co. and even invading Microsoft Corp.’s own operations.

more here:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/106129_worm28.shtml
Todd H
on July 9th, 2006

Many ATMs are connected through the Internet, and even the ones on private networks are susceptible.

http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS6438545389.html
Dan
on July 9th, 2006

That may be true in some cases, but many worms have found their way onto ATMs in the past.

eg. http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7517
crusty
on July 9th, 2006

Not only that, but I work at home depot, and all of the cash registers and self checkouts are powered by XP. I never knew a cash register could seize up before…..
ChrisJ
on July 9th, 2006

This isn’t really anything new. For a very long time some ATMs were powered by an embedded version of Windows NT and even Window CE. Truth of the matter is that Windows run on a private network can be very secure. Also, NEXT and Windows are also used in point of sale systems all over the world.

It’s time we get past the petty bickering of operating systems and start making better computing choices and that does not mean switching for the sake of switching.
Scriptersx
on July 9th, 2006

I do remember a story about a worm getting into an ATM, umm i think it was mydoom or one of them
Brian
on July 9th, 2006

It might be worth while to know which bank in question has Windows XP ATMs made by NCR…
Torin Darkflight
on July 9th, 2006

A couple years ago I remember seeing another website about a different ATM running XP. That other ATM apparently had a mechanism to automatically reboot itself whenever something went wrong, and the picture showed the ATM screen with the Windows XP bootup screen on it. What’s worse…if I remember correctly, it was XP HOME, and it didn’t have SP2 (Yes, this picture was taken months after SP2 was released). Good grief!
Fahroe
on July 9th, 2006

I think there are more, for example Siemens. First saw the ATM using XP was in early 2005, installed by one of the banks here in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Then saw it again on ATM manufactured by IBM, NCR. Heck..even saw a blue screen ATM once. :)
Byron Smart
on July 9th, 2006

See ATM’s work pretty damn well and have been for years, minus advanced hacks like adding hardware adapters and other un-social theivery methods.. However now this will be extremly simple to jackpot.. The end of the world is near, but more like a NWO starte to phase out using cash alltogether.. Think about it…
lflashl
on July 9th, 2006

I have seen this too in NEW ZEALAND, on the new KIWI Bank ATM’s machine. was funny to see, would be nice to see wht we could do with them.
Byron Smart
on July 9th, 2006

private networks and high security firewalls with XP? ahahah yeah right.. What do you think Linux hackers cream over…hehe Let the Kaos begin
Jason
on July 9th, 2006

Yeah, seriously. And it’s not like you see these errors every day.
Roger
on July 9th, 2006

Private networks or not. It is stupid running an out of the box version of XP on ATM’s. As you can see in the pictures, they don’t even have proper fault tolerance and fail secure mechanisms. Either the system wasn’t designed (at all) or someone got bribed a lot.
Josh
on July 9th, 2006

Bridget has a point. With having to work in the banking industry developing software for a year. I had the (dis)pleasure of working on a similar device. I would not agree with using xp on such a machine but we had no say so in it. I however will assure you this though. ATMs with such as this are well protected from outside networks.
Joe
on July 10th, 2006

I work for a financial institution and laugh at the Windows XP ATMs also.

Remember when Bank Of America’s ATMs were all brought down by a worm a few years ago? They were all running Windows.

The problem is that the ATM companies show off the pretty Windows interface and the marketing guys practically wet themselves with the advertising potential of this interface. So security goes out the window and the marketing guys get what they want.

Very typical.
Jerry
on July 10th, 2006

Windows comes with a lot of well-understood infrastructure for updating software, performing backups, determining status, etc. It runs on a wide variety of commodity hardware. The ATM software itself is the smallest part of managing the ATM network; having cheap, replacable hardware and familiar tools for status, backup, & update can seriously lower the cost of operaion.

A great number of developers use Windows to write and test their software, lowering the cost of acquiring and keeping said talent. The two most widely-used network development environments (.NET, J2EE) are easiest to develop on in Windows (predictable behavior, widely-available free or very cheap tools, latest releases always available, etc.). (Odd in Java’s case, but there it is.) This lowers the cost of development.

Many manufacturers know this, and so offer Windows as the OS for their ATMS, and many customers choose to use Windows for these reasons.
sban
on November 15th, 2006

The instiall setup for the screen resolution for the ATM software to work
les
on March 14th, 2007

most of them run on XP but its not the XP you think, its way diffrent from what you have seen ;D
IT Security
on April 4th, 2007

currently yes alot of of ATMS run off Windows XP it is a locked down version of XP(which is created by the bank)usually it sits within its own forest and SSL or IPSec encryption so that even if the ATM is on the corporate network all its traffic is encrypted.Firewalls and IPS/IDS solutions are also used to mitigate the risk of virus outbreaks as well as antivirus in the case of some banks depoly this to the ATMS. The main reason for going to XP is that it can be managed properly as well as developemnet for new features for the ATM are Quick to develope and the skills are easy to get hold os OS2 skills are not

With regards to Virus
Jose
on May 4th, 2007

If atms run xp, this gives me Ideas, because having an Xp computers requires 96mb ram, 2 mb Video, and a hard drive, or maybe they are edited versions of xp that run on lowerend hardware… but the cpu X86 is a key factor for hacking, my grandpa used to steal money fro ATMs usning a graphing calculator…
Liam
on June 9th, 2007

Dude, you have got to be kidding! ATMs sohuld have their own super-sucure OS. Not windwos XP?!?! Windows xp needs like 4+Gigs of HD space, if all you need is a simple OS that is like 50MB or even less! Windows Xp has many ways to do things that alot of people dont know about useing keybord shortcuts, example: Control + Shift + Esc opens task manager and Windows button + R opens the run box where you can go to command prompt and everything! So why dont banks just make a simple OS that can be updated easy and (becouse it is made by banks) only banks know how to accsess/hack it. If it is running on WinXP, a simple .exe could be ran and a code would be implanted that when pressed, would deposit all of the machene’s cash! Damn
Joshua
on July 5th, 2007

They should use Linux os Mac OS 9/X on ATMs. Hell at school I boot linux on a school computer and I can access anything on the whole network.
TCPMeta
on August 11th, 2007

Most ATMs ran OS\2 and some bastard version of UNIX. They should of left it that way because Not many people know how to exploit OS\2 and it’s very hard to get into a unix system. At my old job we had a contract to do a hardware install at a compass bank. Another company came in and did the software. This guy I knew that was testing the ATM that was running Windows Embedded found so many exploits it wasn’t funny. The ATM had a shelf with a lock that had a keyboard and a touch pad on the outside. The lock was a plain old lock. You needed a master key card to make it close the ATM customer screen and went to the windows desktop. From there you can run the test program and make it spit out money. The master key card can be easily made and the code is easy to exploit. If you know how to hack a satellite you can hack this ATM. It scares me that people know how to do this stuff. Really in all it depends on the hardware setup and the ATM customer software. Also theres cameras on ATMs so it’s kinda hard to break into one.

Think about it, most companies buy so many copies/licenses of windows and at some point they use up all of the licenses they bought and end up putting a few “illegal” installs. Also everyone wants to use a OS that can be exploited so easily that it doesn’t take time for companies to use the same OS. A friend of mine has a new cell that uses Windows Mobile and he already got a Trojan on it from syncing it with another friend’s PC. Why can’t people suck it up and use a Unix based OS. So far Unix it self has no virues, spyware, malware and if setup correctly it can’t get broken into unless the “hacker” gets a hold of the root password.
Blake Barrie
on August 20th, 2007

Most of you are extremely foolish. Windows XP, without any patches, is just as secure as Linux, when behind say a Linux router. The problem is when many ports are open or when you are using Internet Explorer that you need to update windows.
Jack
on September 2nd, 2007

Yeah Well One Of The ATM Machienes Are Running on vista at the shops
M15F1T
on September 30th, 2007

i work security @ key bank & they run XP Pro on the atm’s Luzers!!! sum1 pleeeze hack them so i can have something to do *BooooReD @ WoRk !!!*
M15F1T
on September 30th, 2007

key bank ATM’s use WinXP Pro. they are Very unstable we get the blue-screen AT LEAST once a week, and it reboots all the time it also likes to eat plastic (cards)
Klajdi Hena
on November 12th, 2007

lol. I never knew that ATM machines ran on Windows XP either. It’s kinda funny though, and suprising at the same time.
ATM
on April 15th, 2008

Id like to find a broken ATM that has windows XP and modify it into an mp3 jukebox and put my mp3s on it and make a cool looking mp3 jukebox. will this work? how big is its hard drive, will it take USB flash drives