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The image above reminds me of the same ATM error I encounter 2 years ago, the only difference is the operating system which happens to be IBM’s outdated O/S2.上圖中,令我想起同樣的ATM的錯誤我遇到二年前,唯一的區別是作業系統,這恰恰是IBM的過時o/s2 。 I thought for security purposes, banks prefer UNIX or Linux system.我覺得為了安全起見,銀行寧可UNIX或Linux系統。
If banks, ATMs, machines, cars, phones are powered mostly by Windows from Microsoft, then it is almost impossible to break the monopoly of operating system by Microsoft.如果銀行,自動櫃員機,機器,汽車,手機電源大多是由Windows從Microsoft ,那幾乎是不可能的,以打破壟斷的作業系統,微軟。

Image source and credits : 圖片來源及學分: Shaolin Tiger 少林虎
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Bridget Linhart布里奇特linhart
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日The software is run on private networks, with high security firewalls.該軟件上運行的專用網絡,與高安全性的防火牆。 It’s not like they were run on the Internet.它的不喜歡他們來說,在互聯網上。
Nachoes nachoes
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日Doesn’t really matter: Some stupid Exec taking his laptop with him over the weekend, the laptop is infected by a virus and he plugs into the corporate LAN on monday…並沒有真正的問題:一些愚蠢的Exec的考慮,他的筆記型電腦與他上週末,筆記本電腦病毒感染和他插頭到企業局域網上週一…
(and yes, this has happened) (是的,這種情況已經)
trogdor
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日The ATM UI should be so simple that it can fit on a chip.自動櫃員機的UI應該這麼簡單,它可以適合於一個芯片。 The ATMs I’ve used have had the same UI for over a decade.該自動櫃員機我已使用了相同的用戶界面,為超過10年。 Do we really need a color screen to view our balance or withdraw $20?我們真的需要彩色屏幕,若要檢視我們的平衡或撤回20元呢?
Andreas Roedl安德烈亞斯roedl
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日That’s scary!這是可怕的!
Do you really need an operating system like Windows XP to run an ATM?你真的需要一個操作系統一樣, Windows XP中運行自動取款機? I don’t think so.我不這麼認為。
anon別名
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日FYI,僅供參考,
The latest Internet worm struck Washington state’s leading businesses, disrupting thousands of Washington Mutual Inc. automated teller machines, infecting The Boeing Co. and even invading Microsoft Corp.’s own operations.最新的互聯網蠕蟲病毒擊中了美國華盛頓州的領先企業,擾亂數以千計的華盛頓互惠公司的自動櫃員機,感染波音公司,甚至入侵微軟公司的自身行動。
more here:更多在這裡:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/106129_worm28.shtml
Todd H托德h
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日Many ATMs are connected through the Internet, and even the ones on private networks are susceptible.許多自動取款機連接,通過互聯網,甚至那些對私人網絡是容易受到影響。
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS6438545389.html http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/ns6438545389.html
Dan王丹
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日That may be true in some cases, but many worms have found their way onto ATMs in the past.這可能是事實,在某些情況下,但許多蠕蟲已經找到他們的方式上的自動櫃員機在過去的。
eg.例如。 http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7517
crusty硬皮
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日Not only that, but I work at home depot, and all of the cash registers and self checkouts are powered by XP.不僅如此,但我的工作在Home Depot的,和所有的現金選民登記冊及自我checkouts是由XP的。 I never knew a cash register could seize up before…..我從來不知道的現金登記冊可抓住之前… ..
ChrisJ chrisj
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日This isn’t really anything new.這是不是真的什麼新的東西。 For a very long time some ATMs were powered by an embedded version of Windows NT and even Window CE.一段很長的時間被一些自動取款機動力由一個嵌入式版本的Windows NT和窗口,甚至行政長官。 Truth of the matter is that Windows run on a private network can be very secure.事情的真相是,在Windows上運行的專用網絡,可以很安全。 Also, NEXT and Windows are also used in point of sale systems all over the world.此外,明年和Windows也被用來在銷售點系統,遍布世界各地。
It’s time we get past the petty bickering of operating systems and start making better computing choices and that does not mean switching for the sake of switching.它的時間,我們獲得過去的小爭吵的作業系統,並開始做出更好的選擇和計算這並不意味著開關為開關。
Scriptersx scriptersx
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日I do remember a story about a worm getting into an ATM, umm i think it was mydoom or one of them我記得一個故事,一個蠕蟲病毒進入自動取款機,烏姆我認為這是MyDoom的或其中一人
Brian布賴恩
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日It might be worth while to know which bank in question has Windows XP ATMs made by NCR…它可能值得的同時,知道哪些銀行在質詢了Windows XP的自動櫃員機所作出的NCR的…
Torin Darkflight torin darkflight
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日A couple years ago I remember seeing another website about a different ATM running XP.一對夫婦年前,我記得看到另一個網站約一個不同的ATM運行XP 。 That other ATM apparently had a mechanism to automatically reboot itself whenever something went wrong, and the picture showed the ATM screen with the Windows XP bootup screen on it.其他的ATM顯然有一個機制,以自動重新啟動本身,每當出事了,和圖片顯示,自動櫃員機屏幕與Windows XP的啟動屏幕上。 What’s worse…if I remember correctly, it was XP HOME, and it didn’t have SP2 (Yes, this picture was taken months after SP2 was released).什麼更糟糕的… …如果我沒有記錯,這是XP家用,和它沒有SP2的(是的,這圖片是採取個月後, SP2中被釋放) 。 Good grief!良好的悲痛!
Fahroe fahroe
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日I think there are more, for example Siemens.我覺得有更多,例如西門子。 First saw the ATM using XP was in early 2005, installed by one of the banks here in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.第一次看到的ATM使用XP是在2005年年初,安裝之一,銀行在這裡在馬來西亞吉隆坡舉行。 Then saw it again on ATM manufactured by IBM, NCR.然後看到它再次在ATM製造,由IBM , NCR的。 Heck..even saw a blue screen ATM once.赫克..甚至看到一個藍色屏幕上的ATM一次。 :) : )
Byron Smart拜倫智能
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日See ATM’s work pretty damn well and have been for years, minus advanced hacks like adding hardware adapters and other un-social theivery methods..看到農技團的工作相當可惡良好,並已多年,減去先進的駭客一樣,加入硬件適配器和其他聯合國社會theivery方法.. However now this will be extremly simple to jackpot..但現在這將是有價值簡單,中獎.. The end of the world is near, but more like a NWO starte to phase out using cash alltogether..去年底,世界是近,但更象nwo starte逐步淘汰使用現金alltogether .. Think about it…想想它…
lflashl
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日I have seen this too in NEW ZEALAND, on the new KIWI Bank ATM’s machine.我所看到的這也是在新西蘭,就新的獼猴桃銀行ATM的機器。 was funny to see, would be nice to see wht we could do with them.有趣的是,看看,會很高興看到西隧我們可以做與他們。
Byron Smart拜倫智能
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日private networks and high security firewalls with XP?私人網絡和高安全性的防火牆與XP的? ahahah yeah right.. ahahah啊權.. What do you think Linux hackers cream over…hehe Let the Kaos begin您怎麼看Linux的黑客霜超過…赫赫,讓kaos開始
Jason賈森
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日Yeah, seriously.是啊,傷勢嚴重。 And it’s not like you see these errors every day.和它的不喜歡你看到這些錯誤的每一天。
Roger陸觀
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日Private networks or not.私人網絡或沒有。 It is stupid running an out of the box version of XP on ATM’s.這是愚蠢的運行一個地地道道的方塊版的Windows XP在ATM的。 As you can see in the pictures, they don’t even have proper fault tolerance and fail secure mechanisms.你可以看到在圖片,他們甚至不用適當的容錯和失敗的安全機制。 Either the system wasn’t designed (at all) or someone got bribed a lot.無論是制度設計不(所有)或有人行賄得到了很多。
Josh喬什
on July 9th, 2006 對2006年7月9日Bridget has a point.布里奇特有一個點。 With having to work in the banking industry developing software for a year.與有工作在銀行界的軟件開發為一年。 I had the (dis)pleasure of working on a similar device.我有( DIS )的快樂,工作在一個類似的裝置。 I would not agree with using xp on such a machine but we had no say so in it.我不會同意使用XP的這種機器,但我們沒有這樣說,在它。 I however will assure you this though.但我會向你保證,這雖然。 ATMs with such as this are well protected from outside networks.自動櫃員機與像這樣的都得到妥善保護,從外部網絡。
Joe喬
on July 10th, 2006 對2006年7月10日I work for a financial institution and laugh at the Windows XP ATMs also.我工作的一個金融機構,並笑在Windows XP的自動櫃員機也。
Remember when Bank Of America’s ATMs were all brought down by a worm a few years ago?記得當美國銀行的自動櫃員機均下跌所帶來的蠕蟲幾年前? They were all running Windows.他們都是在運行Windows 。
The problem is that the ATM companies show off the pretty Windows interface and the marketing guys practically wet themselves with the advertising potential of this interface.問題是,自動櫃員機公司炫耀漂亮的Windows界面和營銷傢伙幾乎濕自己與廣告的潛力,此接口。 So security goes out the window and the marketing guys get what they want.因此,安全熄滅的窗口和營銷傢伙得到他們想要的。
Very typical.非常典型。
Jerry偷工減料
on July 10th, 2006 對2006年7月10日Windows comes with a lot of well-understood infrastructure for updating software, performing backups, determining status, etc. It runs on a wide variety of commodity hardware.在Windows附帶了很多良好的理解的基礎設施,更新軟體,表演的備份,確定地位,等它運行於各種各樣的商品的硬件。 The ATM software itself is the smallest part of managing the ATM network; having cheap, replacable hardware and familiar tools for status, backup, & update can seriously lower the cost of operaion.自動櫃員機軟件本身是迄今發現的最小的一部分,管理ATM網絡;具有廉價, replacable硬件和熟悉的工具的地位,備份與更新能認真地降低成本operaion 。
A great number of developers use Windows to write and test their software, lowering the cost of acquiring and keeping said talent.大量的開發人員使用Windows以寫入和測試他們的軟件,降低成本獲取和保持說的人才。 The two most widely-used network development environments (.NET, J2EE) are easiest to develop on in Windows (predictable behavior, widely-available free or very cheap tools, latest releases always available, etc.).兩個最被廣泛使用的網絡開發環境( 。淨, J2EE平台)是最容易發展的在Windows (可預測的行為,廣泛提供免費或非常便宜的工具,最新的新聞稿總是可用的,等等) 。 (Odd in Java’s case, but there it is.) This lowers the cost of development. (奇數在Java的情況下,但它是) ,這降低了開發成本。
Many manufacturers know this, and so offer Windows as the OS for their ATMS, and many customers choose to use Windows for these reasons.許多製造商知道這一點,所以提供Windows作為操作系統,為他們的自動櫃員機,許多客戶選擇使用Windows基於這些原因。
sban
on November 15th, 2006 關於2006年11月15日The instiall setup for the screen resolution for the ATM software to work該instiall設置為屏幕分辨率為ATM的軟件工作
les本港就業輔導組
on March 14th, 2007 對2007年3月14日most of them run on XP but its not the XP you think, its way diffrent from what you have seen ;D他們大多在XP上運行,但其不是XP中,您認為,其方式有什麼不同,你們看到了; d
IT Security IT安全
on April 4th, 2007 關於2007年4月4日currently yes alot of of ATMS run off Windows XP it is a locked down version of XP(which is created by the bank)usually it sits within its own forest and SSL or IPSec encryption so that even if the ATM is on the corporate network all its traffic is encrypted.Firewalls and IPS/IDS solutions are also used to mitigate the risk of virus outbreaks as well as antivirus in the case of some banks depoly this to the ATMS.目前有很多自動櫃員機的運行小康的Windows XP這是一個鎖定版本的Windows XP (這是所產生的銀行) ,通常它位於其自己的森林和SSL或IPSec加密功能,所以,即使ATM是對企業網絡的所有其交通是encrypted.firewalls和IPS /入侵檢測系統的解決方案也可用來減輕風險病毒爆發,以及防毒,在案件部分銀行depoly就此向自動櫃員機。 The main reason for going to XP is that it can be managed properly as well as developemnet for new features for the ATM are Quick to develope and the skills are easy to get hold os OS2 skills are not最主要的原因去XP的是,它可以妥善管理,以及developemnet為新功能的ATM是快速發展和技能,很容易掌握操作系統os2技能不
With regards to Virus至於病毒
Jose聖荷西
on May 4th, 2007 關於2007年5月4日If atms run xp, this gives me Ideas, because having an Xp computers requires 96mb ram, 2 mb Video, and a hard drive, or maybe they are edited versions of xp that run on lowerend hardware… but the cpu X86 is a key factor for hacking, my grandpa used to steal money fro ATMs usning a graphing calculator…如果自動櫃員機的運行XP中,這讓我的想法,因為有一個XP電腦需要96mb內存, 2 MB的視頻,和硬盤驅動器,或他們可能是編輯的版本的Windows XP上運行的lowerend硬件… …但CPU的x86上運行的一個關鍵因素為黑客,我的爺爺用來竊取金錢,來來往往的自動櫃員機usning 1圖形計算器…
Liam利亞姆
on June 9th, 2007 對2007年6月9日Dude, you have got to be kidding! dude ,你必須要在開玩笑! ATMs sohuld have their own super-sucure OS.自動櫃員機sohuld有自己的超級sucure操作系統。 Not windwos XP?!?!沒有windwos XP的嗎! ? ! Windows xp needs like 4+Gigs of HD space, if all you need is a simple OS that is like 50MB or even less! Windows XP需要像4 +演出房署的空間,如果您所需要的是一個簡單的操作系統是一樣, 50 MB的或什少! Windows Xp has many ways to do things that alot of people dont know about useing keybord shortcuts, example: Control + Shift + Esc opens task manager and Windows button + R opens the run box where you can go to command prompt and everything! Windows XP中有許多方法可以做到的事情,有很多人不知道如何使用keybord的捷徑,例如:控制+轉移+ ESC鍵打開任務管理器和Windows按鈕+打開運行框中,您可以到命令提示符和一切! So why dont banks just make a simple OS that can be updated easy and (becouse it is made by banks) only banks know how to accsess/hack it.那麼為什麼不用銀行只是作一個簡單的操作系統可以更新容易, (因為它是由銀行) ,只有銀行知道如何accsess /哈克。 If it is running on WinXP, a simple .exe could be ran and a code would be implanted that when pressed, would deposit all of the machene’s cash!如果是運行在winxp ,一個簡單的。 exe可然和工作守則,將植入,當按下時,將存款,所有的machene的現金! Damn譴責
Joshua約書亞
on July 5th, 2007 對2007年7月5日They should use Linux os Mac OS 9/X on ATMs.他們應使用Linux操作系統的Mac OS 9 / X在自動櫃員機。 Hell at school I boot linux on a school computer and I can access anything on the whole network.地獄在學校i啟動Linux的一所學校的電腦和我可以訪問任何對整個網絡。
TCPMeta tcpmeta
on August 11th, 2007 對2007年8月11日Most ATMs ran OS\2 and some bastard version of UNIX.大部分的自動櫃員機然操作系統\ 2和一些王八版的Unix 。 They should of left it that way because Not many people know how to exploit OS\2 and it’s very hard to get into a unix system.他們應該左這樣說,因為沒有多少人知道如何利用操作系統\ 2和它很難進入一個UNIX系統。 At my old job we had a contract to do a hardware install at a compass bank.在我的舊工作,我們有一項合同,以做硬件安裝在一個羅盤銀行。 Another company came in and did the software.另一家公司來,並在該軟件。 This guy I knew that was testing the ATM that was running Windows Embedded found so many exploits it wasn’t funny.這個傢伙,我知道這是測試自動櫃員機,這是運行Windows嵌入式發現這麼多的漏洞是不好笑。 The ATM had a shelf with a lock that had a keyboard and a touch pad on the outside.自動櫃員機進行了大陸架與鎖了鍵盤和觸控板對外部。 The lock was a plain old lock.鎖是一種樸素的舊鎖。 You needed a master key card to make it close the ATM customer screen and went to the windows desktop.你需要一個萬能鑰匙卡,使之密切的ATM客戶屏幕和到Windows桌面。 From there you can run the test program and make it spit out money.在那裡,您可以運行測試程序,使其吐出的錢。 The master key card can be easily made and the code is easy to exploit.主鑰匙卡可以很容易地取得及代碼是很容易利用。 If you know how to hack a satellite you can hack this ATM.如果您知道如何侵入衛星您可以在本哈克的ATM 。 It scares me that people know how to do this stuff.它害怕我說,人們知道如何做這種東西。 Really in all it depends on the hardware setup and the ATM customer software.真的在所有它依賴於硬件設置和自動櫃員機的客戶軟件。 Also theres cameras on ATMs so it’s kinda hard to break into one.也theres相機上的自動櫃員機,所以的kinda很難打入一。
Think about it, most companies buy so many copies/licenses of windows and at some point they use up all of the licenses they bought and end up putting a few “illegal” installs.想想看,大多數公司購買這麼多拷貝/許可的Windows和在一些點,他們使用了所有的執照,他們買了,最後把幾個“非法”安裝。 Also everyone wants to use a OS that can be exploited so easily that it doesn’t take time for companies to use the same OS.此外,每個人都想使用的操作系統可以利用這麼容易,它並不需要一段時間的公司使用相同的操作系統。 A friend of mine has a new cell that uses Windows Mobile and he already got a Trojan on it from syncing it with another friend’s PC.有一位朋友礦井有一個新的細胞,使用Windows Mobile和他已有一個特洛伊木馬病毒就從同步,它與另一位朋友的電腦上。 Why can’t people suck it up and use a Unix based OS.為什麼不能人抽走了,並使用基於UNIX操作系統。 So far Unix it self has no virues, spyware, malware and if setup correctly it can’t get broken into unless the “hacker” gets a hold of the root password.到目前為止, UNIX中的自我沒有virues ,間諜軟件,惡意軟件和安裝正確,如果它不能獲得闖入,除非“黑客”得到掌握了root密碼。
Blake Barrie布雷克巴里
on August 20th, 2007 對2007年8月20日Most of you are extremely foolish.大部分你是非常愚蠢的。 Windows XP, without any patches, is just as secure as Linux, when behind say a Linux router. Windows XP中,沒有任何補丁,只是作為安全的Linux ,當背後說Linux路由器。 The problem is when many ports are open or when you are using Internet Explorer that you need to update windows.問題是,當許多港口的開放,或當您正在使用Internet Explorer ,您需要更新Windows 。
Jack傑克
on September 2nd, 2007 對2007年9月2日Yeah Well One Of The ATM Machienes Are Running on vista at the shops是啊,以及一個自動櫃員機machienes上正在運行的Vista的店鋪
M15F1T m15f1t
on September 30th, 2007 對2007年9月30日i work security @ key bank & they run XP Pro on the atm’s Luzers!!!我工作的安全@關鍵銀行&他們運行XP專業版對自動櫃員機的luzers ! sum1 pleeeze hack them so i can have something to do *BooooReD @ WoRk !!!* sum1 pleeeze哈克他們,所以我可以有一些做* boooored @工作! *
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on September 30th, 2007 對2007年9月30日key bank ATM’s use WinXP Pro.關鍵的銀行ATM的使用winxp親。 they are Very unstable we get the blue-screen AT LEAST once a week, and it reboots all the time it also likes to eat plastic (cards)他們是非常不穩定的,我們得到藍屏每週至少一次,並重新啟動所有的時間,也喜歡吃塑膠(卡)
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on November 12th, 2007 關於2007年11月12日lol.大聲笑。 I never knew that ATM machines ran on Windows XP either.我從來不知道自動櫃員機然在Windows XP上。 It’s kinda funny though, and suprising at the same time.它的kinda有趣的,雖然,並不足為奇,在同一時間舉行。
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on April 15th, 2008 關於2008年4月15日Id like to find a broken ATM that has windows XP and modify it into an mp3 jukebox and put my mp3s on it and make a cool looking mp3 jukebox.編號想要找到一個破碎的ATM了Windows XP和修改它變成一個MP3 Jukebox和把我的MP3就資訊科技,並作出冷靜的看的MP3音樂播放機。 will this work?將這項工作呢? how big is its hard drive, will it take USB flash drives到底有多大,其硬盤驅動器,會採取USB閃存驅動器